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May 20, 2008

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Lisa Burney

Isn't it wonderful that will all come full circle and end up in prayer?

Chris Yount Jones

Totally agree, Lisa.

It also makes me concerned for where we are in the church, though, that it's sometimes our last thought (mine included). We try to figure things out, research them, find a program/method that's working somewhere else. And all the time, God knows what we need to do and can make it happen.

It reminds me of the verse that says that some people have the form of godliness but deny the power of God. We need a fresh touch from God more than we need the latest resource or program.

Can I get an amen?

Lisa Burney

Amen and amen!

Methods and programs are a dime a dozen compared to the value of one dedicated, inspired godly person to implement them.
I admonish my team and myself every year to spent as much time in prayer and equipping the saints as we do discussing the merits of this method or program over the other. If we did, I KNOW we'd have a huge harvest of saints equipped and ready for ministry. We just haven't been able to discipline ourselves to actually doing it that way 100%, not even 25% of the time!

Is it because, as you point out, that we deny the power of God or worse yet, we like to play God? (Selecting, evaluating, choosing methods and programs vs. asking, relying upon and waiting on God to supply and equip the saints?)

Courtney Walsh

Safety and volunteers are high on our priority list but we're starting to feel that push towards family ministry too. We've decided to start focusing primarly on volunteers - even over programming. We can do all kinds of cool things for the kids, but if we're the only ones leading them, we're going to burn out before the year is through.

I am dumbfounded a church would need a sniper - it's a sad commentary on the state of our society today. Even sadder is the fact that more churches probably need something similar. I pray for our safety... all of us.

Glad you had a good time!

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